AoRG Forum Meeting - June 20, 2007

[[..Tresvir Announcements..]]

AoRG Forum Chief of Staff - Kyttea (Leoperdis)
--Wish to welcome a new guild into the forum - War Mongers Inc.

--Two more positions will be opening shortly - those being the Smithy Assistant and the War council Assistant


[[..Chancellor Announcements..]]

Unireg Administration - Bryannae (Bryannae)
--Letters have been sent out to members who will be losing their regs due to not being on an active AoRG Roster in "forever. She
also wishes to express thanks to all who aided this task with information and corrections.

Smithy Administration - Nathanial (TiefIing)
--A notice has been sent to the Tresvir for the new Smithy Project Sale. Please keep an eye out for it in the coming week and
GC's should be sure to inform their smithy members.
--It may be a bit yet before the Smithy Assistant position actually becomes available.

Justice Administration - Bekkah (Bekkah420)
--Wishes to welcome all of the new assassins and hunters, and to thank those that have been patient as she has been grading test
after test.

Healers Administration - Kittie (KittieVonJager)
--The Healers Department is open once again. Any wishing to take healers test should contact herself and Glacia.

Events Administration - Minya (MinyaDkbld)
--Wishes to thank everyone participating in From Ashes Rising's The Haunting event and that the coming events are EGoV's Drunken
Daggers taking entries through June 22, and CRoWWN-GT's Thrust-or-Parry flyer will be coming out before the weekend.


[[..Member Inquiries..]]

Nathanial (TiefIing)
Q: Is the Healers Department only open for new registants? Or can enhancer orders also be completed?
A (Leoperdis): For the meantime, it will only be for new healers to test. All other aspects will be put into order soon.

Mikael (RedDracuhn)
Q: As far as the Healers Administration being reopened, when will the Healer Chancellor positions become available?
A (Leoperdis): Openings for applications will be very soon, less than a week or so.

Ozmodaus (Ozmodaus)
Q to Nathanial: Does that mean Nathanial is the Master Smith once more?
A (TiefIing): It does not. The announcement is best left for Chris to make and for him to speak on this matter.

Amber (BlodAssassin)
Q: Would like to know when she will hear on the issue filed with the Chancellors quite a time ago.
A (Leoperdis): The nature of the issue has been addressed on several occassions already. The outcome is unlikely to change. The
issue can only be revisited so many times before it is known that changes are not going to happen. So the issue needs to close.

Nathanial (TiefIing)
Q: In regards to matches, once a match begins (init rolled), do the rules of the match apply? Including the action rule, even
if the first round is not completed?
A (Leoperdis): The rules are in effect at that time.
Q (TiefIing): So if one of the combatants fails to act within the time of the action rule, the match it forfeit?
A (Leoperdis): Correct.

Cyana (CyanaMerc1)
Q: If the init starts the actual time the rule is applied, someone needs to revise the proctoring guidelines. If you are calling
a punt action rule, it is assumed that it begins at that time, which is before the init to agree to terms.
Response (Leoperdis): For as long as she has known, once init is made, the rules for engagement are locked in place, but it will
be looked at.

Kit (XIXKitIX)
Q: So the rule actually is the action and punt rules are first in place once init is called for, not when the proctor says the
rules are in place?
A (Leoperdis): Init signals several things. It confirms readiness, agreement to terms, and that at that time, they are in
agreement to play by those terms.

Cyana (CyanaMerc1)
Q: Wouldn't it be easier than to ask for the punt/action rule after init? Before the first round begins to start the clock?
A (Leoperdis): The clock should begin to count from the moment the proctor signals to begin round one.

Ember (VvLadyEmbervV)
Q: Asking clarification - no one is locked into a match until init is rolled? So if someone punts or actions out before init,
then it does not matter?
A (Leoperdis): It does matter if the challenge was made and accepted. The match must still take place. Someone cannot escape a
match completely by stating they were punted.
Q: When are you locked into the match?
A (Leoperdis): Once someone is challenged and agrees to the match, it must take place.

Vincent (VincentSValentin)
Q: Concerning a recent letter that was sent out. It gave praise to the individual, but at the bottom stated that if the
individual were accepted into any guild, the writer of the letter would declare war on the accepting guild. Is this an
appropriate type of letter that should be sent out.
A (Leoperdis): Members should never use the AoRG mailstrings and resources to slander someone. This individual will have to
answer to the Chancellory on why they exploit the listings and how little respect they have for AoRG.

Angelic (XAngelicRegretX)
Q: Wishes to know if anyone can teach a class or if there are requirements.
A (Leoperdis): Certain departments have different requirements, so please contact the Chancellors of the department you are
interested in for more information.

Minya (MinyaDkbld)
Statement: Raz has ruled that in order for a math to be valid, for anyone to earn VP from it, a full round must be fought.
This means is someone forfeits or is punted before their action before round 1 is fought, the match is void. The 24-hour
challenge rule does still apply. For Mass Spars, for a participant to earn the 1 VP for DQing, they must have participated
in the first round of combat. If they depart before their action, they earn nothing.

Kyttea (Leoperdis)
Statement: It is all understood, Minya. The init has been, for many years, the official point of legal engagement.

Nathanial (TiefIing)
Request: Please sent out a copy of this Ruling by Raz, as the records have not been given to the GC's of the guilds of the forum.

Raven (Ravensilvr3)
Q: Why is it that when something has been decided amongst the Chancellors, it has to be drug out at a meeting instead of
distributed to the population?
A (Leoperdis): Some decisions have been sent to the GC's or placed in newsletters to distribute to their members. We can look at
perhaps creatinga more complete process, but those are the two sources currently used

Nathanial (TiefIing)
Q: Who is all allowed to contest a match? Are persons not involved in th match allowed to contest? Or is it only the fighters?
Can the healers or mages or bystanders? Or even the GC that sees it later?
A (Leoperdis): Only combatants have the rights to contest a match. GC's should train members well enough so they do not have
to step in at all. There are going to be ties when something is not fair, but that is rare and any combatant has a right prior
to a match to ask about the terms being clear to them.

Cyana (CyanaMerc1)
Observation: Having been in the forums a long time, she has noticed that the forum has been crumbling. Guild policies mean more
so than the guild members. When will it stop? When will each one of us stop pointing fingers and toe the line? A small few are
trying and working their fingers to the bone to make it livable and are burning out because of all the BS. Take a look around and
stand for what is right, not just for yourself, but for all.

Minya (MinyaDkbld)
Comment: Adding to Kyttea's comment, only the combatants have the rights to contest a match, but any participant has the right to
file a complain on the issue.


[[..Adjournment..]]

Meeting Adjourned at 11:27pm EST

AoRG Forum Meeting - June 6, 2007

[[..Presidential Announcements..]]

AoRG Forum President - Raziel (VvRazielvV)
--There has been much notice made of the petty bickering, squabbles, and personal woes and angst. The
Chancellory does not care for it or care about it. It does not need to be brought to their attention.
However, should the pettiness begin to affect the health of the forum (either IC or OOC), the Chancellory
will step in and take matters of blacklisting or banning to protect the forum. ((This is a game.
something that is supposed to be fun. The forum is here to provide the rules to play by, but that is all.))


[[..Member Inquiries..]]

Amber (BlodAssassin)
Q These statements should not apply to only GC's and members, but to Chancellory members
as well, such as showing prefered treatment. Will this be dealt with?
A (VvRaziel): The Chancellors have heard a lot of yelling lately, and all of their conduct is being
recorded and will be dealt with in the very near future.

Bekkah (Bekkah420)
((Q: What about OOC harrassment?
A (VvRazielvV): Send records to the Tresvir and it will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.))

Raine (XxFireandEarthxX)
((Q: What about OOC harrassment and rudeness concerning IC matters?
A (VvRazielvV): Send records to the Tresvir and it will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.))

Dyl-Bok (DylBokGrant)
Q: When will the Healer's Administration be open again or at least applications
be accepted for the positions?
A (VvRazielvV): Things should be ready to go in some manner by the time the Chancellory meeting next
week is over with. It could be any of those items listed, but it will be open in some fashion.

Llor (XLlorDreiX)
Suggestion: Perhaps due to the nature of this meeting tonight, a section of OOC should be held at a certain
period in time and then an IC meeting held for those, so those who only wish to deal with IC issues can
attend meetings of that nature.

Wesley (WesleyLyzanders)
Q: What is the ruling for a gulid to enter the lands of another and hold control over it (i.e. opening
the tavern of another guild and holding the bolt).
A (VvRazielvV): Fraight is not allowed. Misrepresenting yourself on forum territory can get you
suspended. However, if another guild is bested, they are fine (RPed out, etc.).
Q: So would the members of FAR get suspended for opening a room with DM in the title.
A: It is possible. More information would be needed to make a decision.

Nathanial (TiefIing)
Statement: A letter was sent to the chancellory earlier today asking if any mandates were violated in
the settling of FAR on the borderlands of DM. If they are breaking mandates, the guild will leave the
lands belonging to DM.

Amber (BlodAssassin)
Statement: As a Chancellor and Former Vice President, shouldn't Nathanial know and uphold all the mandates?
It does not look good for the members of the forum to see one such as him be ignorant of mandates he broke.
Response (VvRazielvV): It is not a written mandates. This is such a situation that relies on the spirit of
the mandates to be upheld.

Kyttea (Leoperdis)
Suggestion: Grand Commanders involved in such sitiations may be able to reach a quiet understanding, prior
to invasions of such a nature, and incorporate it into a written adventure (Open/Closed Storylines).

Annis (AnnisXXII)
Statement: We are a warlike culture and there will be hostilities. There will be raides. An unguarded
tavern may be commandeered by a hostile guild. It is in the nature of our very society. If this should
occur, then it is time to reclaim or protect your property or lands. It is not time to come to the
Chancellory and complain.

Glacia (Glacia8984)
Comment from Mandates: Sometimes it is best that if you do not agree with the roleplay, the best method
to dealing with it is simply to ignore people are there.

Wesley (WesleyLyzanders)
Q: When someone is placed on the AoRG Blacklist, is that person banned or their mun.
A (VvRazielvV): Blacklisting means that the character is banned. To be Banned means the mun/player is banned.


[[..Chancellor Announcements..]]

Unireg Administration - Bryannae (Bryannae)
--Unireg Roster has been updated on the AoRG Portal. Any questions should be directed to the Chancellor.


[[..Adjournment..]]

Meeting Adjourned at 10:58pm EST